
SNIPINGS
by
Jim Foster, King Snipe
Our
Fall Meet
I
have been asked by your editors to supply a report on the Fall Meet, a
joint meeting with our friends in the Three Rivers Narrow Gauge
Historical Society, so such a report will take the place of my column
for this issue. I don’t
know if the editors had that purpose in mind.
Since
I set this one up (with assistance from Richard Davoust) I will refrain
from exclaiming how great it was, but since it was done in a place far
from my home and at long distance, I’ll discuss later how any of you
can do so, too.
Our
Saturday, October 2nd agenda was similar to most of our other
Meets. We had three
clinics, with Bill Logan talking about Western narrow gauge rolling
stock, Al Askerberg doing his unbelievable presentation on digital model
photography, and Ed Cass giving an overview of critters.
This last clinic was at my request and not only was pertinent to
our Sunday tours but is a subject near and dear to my heart.
There were several dealer displays and a nice overview of the
2005 National Narrow Gauge Convention in Detroit (Dearborn, actually).
The model contest would have been competitive except that Brian
Budeit entered three of the categories and therefore cleaned our clocks
in all three: Locomotives,
Cars and Maintenance-Of-Way. Terry
Hansley won the Structures category with a nicely modified Fine Scale
Miniatures kit.
Our
after-dinner speaker was a special treat:
I knew Michael Connor, Executive Vice President of the Ohio
Central Railroad System, from a previous Three Rivers convention, and he
graciously agreed to talk about his railroad (which includes the former
Conotton Valley narrow gauge, the former Pennsy Panhandle and what seems
to be most of the remaining trackage in Eastern Ohio), and also Sunday
visits to an industrial site in Newcomerstown, a second site at the
former Coshocton, Otsego & Eastern, and finally his railroad’s
Morgan Run shops. For
someone (me) in government service that finds railroad management
short-sighted, arrogant and socially irresponsible, Mr. Connor once
again reaffirms my faith that railroads can do useful work if people
running them are interested in providing customer service.
The success of the Ohio Central Railroad System, financially and
otherwise, illustrates this better than I could ever articulate it.
For those of you who missed the opportunity to hear him, don’t
do it again!
At
our brief business meeting, we affirmed that the Mini-Bunch Spring 2005
Meet will be in conjunction with Gary Kohler’s Two-Foot Meet as in the
past three years, and that the Fall 2005 Meet will be in Canton on the
same weekend that the 30” gauge railroad in Navarre is operating
(probably the second weekend in October); Jim Eakin will be arranging
this. We will also elect a
new King Snipe at this Meet, an announcement that generated much
applause and cheering. Regarding
the 2005 National Narrow Gauge Convention, Pete Stroth will be pursuing
a larger presence for both the Mini-Bunch and Three Rivers, perhaps in
the form of a special award for the best Eastern narrow gauge model, and
is also pursuing meeting space for both groups.
Bill Logan wants to tour more of the Ohio River & Western for
one of the Meets in 2006. Watch
this space for further information on all these events!
After
much proselytizing over several months, your King Snipe was able to get
us into the Stone Creek Brick Co. plant on Sunday, October 3rd,
for our first prototype visit. This
plant has probably never had anyone tour it before or even request such
a thing, even though Ed Cass had an article on their clay railroad in
the CRAFTSMAN a few years ago. What
we did not expect was a complete tour of not only the clay railroad (they
did not let us go down in the mine, the only underground clay mine in
Ohio) but also the entire brick making process.
Boys and girls, this brick plant has railroads and trams of
six[!] different gauges: 20_ inches, 24 inches, 36 inches (the
locomotive-hauled clay railroad), 44 inches, 48 inches and standard
gauge! See the pictures.
This visit was a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity that all Mini-Bunchers
should have taken advantage of, as a new mine shaft is being drilled
parallel to the old one in preparation for phasing out the clay railroad
and its four critters. The
foreman told us parts for the cars were too expensive as they had to be
specially made, and one of the critters was being cannibalized to keep
its buddies going.
(Editors note: The December 2 issue of the Dover Times Reporter says
that Stone Creek Brick Company is for sale!!) Buy your locomotives NOW!
To
give all of you an idea of what it sometimes takes to set this stuff up,
we had to fund $200 in overtime pay for the foreman and a locomotive
engineer, but the Stone Creek Brick Co. was well worth it.
Our
next stop was the former James B. Clow & Sons plant in
Newcomerstown. Mr. Connor had unearthed a map showing three at-grade
crossings of the narrow-gauge plant railroad and Pennsy sidings.
Unbelievably, there was still narrow gauge track in three
locations, even though the Pennsy line that once served this place is
now gone.
Mr.
Connor had further arranged a visit to the Coshocton, Otsego &
Eastern, later a coal-hauling branch of the W&LE/NKP until 1962, and
currently being rebuilt by John Uher.
Mr. Uher has relaid and refurbished approximately a mile of track
and operates it with a critter and a speeder.
To those of you who say “I scoff at pitiful standard gauge
locomotives,” this particular critter was originally 42” gauge and
had a nifty close-clearance cab. Mr.
Connor and Mr. Uher had even arranged a fine lunch prepared by an
adjacent carryout and bait shop (it’s not what you think; the lunch
was hamburgers and hot dogs)
Mr.
Connor’s final triumph was to allow us to tour his railroad’s Morgan
Run shops, located east of Coshocton where the Conotton Valley crossed
the Pennsy Panhandle. Not
only does the Ohio Central operate an eclectic mix of vintage and modern
diesels in revenue service, it has a steam fleet for excursion service.
That fleet will not be detailed here, but it includes a
Consolidation, a Ten Wheeler, a Northern and a Pacific, that last one
being in steam during our visit. Mr.
Connor would not let us run it.
Elsewhere
in the newsletter are photographs of the Meet.
To
arrange such a meeting in New Philadelphia while living in Dayton, I
relied on the Tuscarawas County Convention & Visitors Bureau to
recommend hotels and meeting facilities, after I described what our
group needed. All other
arrangements with the host hotel and the conference center, including
banquet choices, were done by telephone, e-mail or letter.
The Stone Creek Brick Co. tour required several letters and
telephone calls, and finally a commitment to pay two of their employees
to come in on a Sunday morning. The Convention & Visitors Bureau further put me in touch
with Michael Connor, although I had met him previously 14 years ago.
Mr. Connor went beyond anyone’s expectations in making our
visit enjoyable and productive, and his contributions are the only part
of our Fall Meet that any one of us could not easily duplicate.
The rest could be done by any of us, in any town.
Volunteer
to do a meet in a place that interests you!
His
Royal Snipiness,
Jim
Model Railroad News
Sam Swanson has done it again. His HOn3 buildings won
first place ribbons for both the on-line structures and on-line displays
at the 2004 convention of the NMRA. Photos appeared in previous issues
of this newsletter. He also has photo in 2005 NMRA calendar.
National Convention nearby:
Don’t forget the 2005 National Narrow Gauge
convention will be held in our backyard in Dearborn MI. Registration
forms are available. Website is www.25nngc.com
Registration is $75 before the end of July, 2005.
Send to Bob Haar, Registrar at 19948 Pollyanna in Livonia, MI 48152
The meet will be at the Dearborn Hyatt Regency from
August 31 to September 3, 2005.
News from narrow gauge country
The Colorado Railroad Museum in Golden has received
shipment of #346 back from Strasburg, PA. The boiler was repaired, the
flues and flue sheets replaced and the running gear overhauled. They
expect 346 will be back in operation on June 2995.
Sad news from Colorado
The Georgetown Loop will be operated by another group
for the next five years. The Historical Society that owns the rails,
bridges and stations could not agree with the company that has operated
there for 30 years, so a new vendor will run the trains next year. No
word on motive power - If you have any form of three foot steam
locomotive, they may be interested in hearing from you. All the
passenger rolling stock, locomotives, tools and supplies are owned by
the current vendor.
That rolling stock has been moved to the Colorado
Railroad Museum or to the Royal Gorge site of the other operation of
that vendor.
Views Along the OR&W –The
Wye at Captina Mine
More
info on Stone Creek Brick:
Stone
Creek Brick company is owned by the Marsh family. Victor Marsh is the
secretary of the company. We have no information on his address, but
he would probably the person to contact regarding rolling stock or
other desired purchases. They use natural gas for production and
it’s high cost is a real problem for them. The company owns 395
acres and has buildings totaling 5 acres in area with a market value
of $800,000.
Flanger at work at Stone Creek Brick Plant
Sharp Curve
Entrance to clay mine

Coshocton,
Otsego & Eastern
Ohio Central Photos





Fall Meet Contest
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Notes from the Editors
Thanks to Jim Foster, and Bill Logan and Richard
Davoust who supplied information, articles or photos. f
HELP NEEDED!!!!
We plan to send out 4 newsletters per year. We are
looking for articles on modelbuilding and prototype that will be of
interest for the members.
Narrow Gauge Websites
Name Badges available
Some members have never received a name badge since
they were not available for a number of years. Others have lost
theirs. Jim Eakin has a vendor who can make badges that are nearly the
same as the previous design. So send $10 to Ted, and we will send a
new badge for you by the next meeting.
(Tell us how to spell the name too - nickname - or whatever.)
Mini-Bunch Newsletter on
Internet
Thanks
to David Keith, our webmaster, we have the chance to see the photos in
color. Generally, there will be additional photos that are not in the
newsletter.
Parties
Responsible for this Newsletter
Jim Foster, King Snipe
1221 Hathaway Rd.
Dayton, OH
937-299-1599
Editors:
John Hansen
17826 Clifton Blvd
Lakewood, OH 44107
216-521-1779
jvhansen@earthlink.net
Ted Wiese
9099 Regency Woods Drive
Kirtland, OH 44094-9380
440-256-5212
mononbell@ncweb.com
National Narrow Gauge Conventions
25th - 2005 August 31 - September 3 - Dearborn, MI
26th - 2006 August 21-26 - Durango, CO
27th - 2007 August 29 - September 1 - Portland, ME
28th - 2008 September - Portland, OR
29th - 2009 Colorado Springs, CO
Midwest
Narrow Gauge Meet
2005 - April 7-9 - Greenford, OH
Southeastern NG
Meet
October 15-16. 2004 Brevard
NC
Indianapolis S
Scale Show
November
20, 2004 - Carmel IN
Sn3 Symposium
Feb 2005 - Tampa, FL
Feb 2006 -
Seattle, WA
Feb 2007 - Denver, CO
Al’s Photo
clinic